The Pope in Britain
He Who Zings Rats also caused a stir with his remarks calling atheism a factor in the rise of Nazism. Paula Kirby argues that this was actually a cunning piece of misdirection, but the old fascist was in fact echoing a common talking point of religious nutjobs who cite Hitler as an atheist and blame Nazi murderousness on the Darwinian theory of evolution. It's clear from Hitler's own words, of course, that he was a firm God-believer and considered himself to be "fighting for the work of the Lord", but what of the ideology of the Nazi state itself?
Some of the Nazi guidelines for book-banning can be found here and make most interesting reading. PZ Myers notes in particular the following categories of banned items:
Schriften weltanschaulichen und lebenskundlichen Charakters, deren Inhalt die falsche naturwissenschaftliche Aufklärung eines primitiven Darwinismus und Monismus ist (Häckel).
[Writings of a philosophical and social character whose content is the false scientific enlightenment of primitive Darwinism and Monism (Häckel).]
Alle Schriften, welche die christliche Religion und ihre Einrichtungen, den Gottesglauben und andere einem gesunden Volksempfinden heiligen Dinge verhöhnen, verumglimpfen oder verächtlich machen.
[All writings that ridicule, belittle or besmirch the Christian religion and its institutions, faith in God, or other things that are holy to the healthy sentiments of the people.]
So the works of Dawkins, Hitchens, Harris, Loftus, Hirsi Ali, and the rest would have been banned in Nazi Germany. Pat Condell's videos would have been banned. Minchin's "Pope song" would have been banned. This blog would have been banned.
The Vatican Godfather, who grew up in Nazi Germany, certainly knows these things. His statements about atheism cannot have been honest ignorance; they were lies, intentional slander.
I couldn't help noticing one other section from the banned-book guidelines:
Schriften der Sexualpädagogik und zur sexuellen Aufklärung, die sich in den Dienst des Genußegoismus der Einzelperson stellen und damit volks- und rassenzerstörend im höchsten Grade wirken (Hirschfeld).
[Writings on sexuality and sexual education which serve the egoistic pleasure of the individual and thus are destructive to the people and race to the highest degree (Hirschfeld).]
Sounds familiar, no? Totalitarians of all stripes are almost always sexual puritans, hostile to the use of sexuality purely for physical or psychological gratification or, indeed, for anything other than reproduction (more sheep for the flock, more cannon fodder for the state). You can often hear the same "values" being preached today by people who, while they may not be fascists, certainly share the Nazis' veneration of religion and their contempt for science and liberalism -- and for atheism.
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Another well rounded posting ... and Good Morning infodel.
It amazes me how the Pope is honoured ... what is amazing .... that after all these centuries, most dont even have any clear view of what the Vatican consist's of, or the inner order of it, or the connection to order's of era's like 12/ 13th century Knights Templar, and the world's first banking system's and the Vatican. This man (Pope)has done nothing of worth, as a matter of fact ... he was in recent year's in African nation's stricken with poverty, and a high rate of HIV/AIDS infection's ... and fought against condom usage as well. Many folk's frankly dont even know a thing about nazi's, or even Hitler, or Hitler and the Vatican's similar breeding method's, standard's, and why? One of Hitler's inspiration's was catholicism, and even the swastika he used, he adopted from a catholic church he attended as a child in Austria, off the bottom of a statue of Mother Mary. The Vatican also ideology-wise is very similar to the nazi movement, and were hand in hand in a way. Even the Pope himself was a nazi youth recruit. Hitler was absolutely puritan even at home entertaining friend's ... he was commonly known amongst his closest as a joke-ster at gathering's, he was full of joke's to tell folk's, but he had a strict policy as well ... never joke's about religion, sex or politic's. It is no wonder why the species is only at this point of evolution ... we think we are so advanced ... and dont even realize how much more advanced we would be right now, if it wasnt for these power entities.
This should be read from the pulpit of every catholic church this Sunday. Loud too-real fucking loud!
A good analogy between then and now. If people take the time to look at the whole spectrum of what's happening now, they should be scared to death.
And don't forget that when any atheist dares to speak up for nonbeliefs the first thing out of a religionist's mouth is "arrogance!"
And here we have this old creep blaming nonbelief for Nazism? The old creep forgets what made the idea for The Final Solution grow and flourish in Hitler' Germany--hatred of the Jews and casting them as evil for murdering their man in the sky's son.
Millions of people tortured and led to hideous deaths because of these damnable delusions. And now we're dealing with more of the same from the allah worshipers.
It ends; it never ends.
Good observation about the common traits of fascist ideologies.
The astonishing thing about the Pope is that a man so evil can be, at the same time, so ridiculous. Such a combination should utterly efface any sense of reverence. I'm glad to see it's beginning to do so.
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