17 November 2009

Renouncing jihad

As a follow-up to my earlier post on how Islam in Europe is being eroded by the growing power of cultural assimilation, here's a must-read article by Johann Hari, illustrating how even some of the very worst -- violent jihadists -- are falling prey to the same phenomenon, at least in Britain. In case after case, men sworn to kill or die for the future global Caliphate gradually realized that the advanced and humane society around them was not the realm of evil they had been taught, while strict-Islamist revolution had brought only cruelty, violence, and backwardness everywhere on Earth where it had succeeded. Now they work against jihadism, using the knowledge gained while they were part of the movement.

It must be said -- which I think Hari does not emphasize enough -- that an important role has been played by tougher state policy against the worst rabble-rousers. Hari notes that the reason why Anjem Choudary now has such a high profile in Britain is that he's the last of his kind; over the last decade all the other major public preachers of jihadism in Britain have been arrested or deported. Without the cabal of fanatical leaders from the nineties to inspire and intimidate, doubt has been able to spread and be expressed among the rank and file.

It must also be said that moderation is not a permanent solution to the threat of Islam in Europe. Moderate and peaceful Muslims certainly exist, but moderate and peaceful Islam is an illusion; the Koran and Hadîth make it clear that the real Islam is the Islam of al-Qâ'idah and the Taliban, and ultimately anyone who still calls himself a Muslim at all must confront this. In the long run only de-Islamization can eliminate the threat. Yet those who recoil from jihadism have at least taken a first step down that road; and if talk of "non-literal" interpretations allows them to renounce violence and work to defeat those who still embrace violence, then even if theologically unsound, it must be considered a practical good.


Blogger Ranch Chimp said...

This was a educational read...at least for me.And YES,I do buy it..I am sure some may read it and not believe it,or should I say "force" themselves to not believe it.It was a graphic story, but that is what make's it so good...it's not all sugar coated with pop culture crap and show's the reality.

I dont need to again state my position and remedy for solving this problem,I've already made that clear, and it is not popular or fashionable. As far as the video link's that accompanied this link ...I couldnt even get through the first one...because I found it nauseating, because after listening to Blair ... I had to shut it off because of his passive suck ass mentality.No...what London/GB does is not our business,I have an opinion simply because I stayed in London for some time,and see it as a great town... and it's sad to see the peoples of this town have to swallow this rubbish from their government...and the pop culture paid corpoarte force that feed's this sypathetic garbage.They dont have to live in places like Brixton or East London,they sit in the nice neighborhood's and dictate to the masses what they should feel and how they should embrace and welcome,reach out, and all the other nauseating shit they are fed ... they are the one's who suffer from this.I'll just shut up now.

Thank's Mr.Infidel .........

17 November, 2009 06:30  
Blogger Holte Ender said...

Excellent commentary by Hari. Just more evidence of the power of how some religions bend and shape people's thinking for the worse.

Cultural assimilation is not new in Europe, but it used to take centuries. Some Roman soldiers that were occupying Brittania did not go home when their Empire fell Not all of the Viking raiders returned to Scandinavia when organized opposition to their pillaging manifested itself. The last big invasion of England was in 1066 by the French speaking Normans and eventually English and not French became to language of the land and the Royal Court. The Islamist re-converts Hari spoke to in London are hopefully the tip of a gigantic iceberg. Pakistani immigrants were often said, when I lived there, to be the least involved in British life compared to other groups like Afro-Carribeans and Indians. Now the English Cricket can boast a name like Sajid Mahmood playing at a very high level. Assimilation will not takes centuries this time, right now is impossible, soon would be fine.

17 November, 2009 08:29  
Blogger Infidel753 said...

I've noticed a strange thing about some of the people who believe the West is locked in an all-out cultural war with Islam (a group to which I firmly belong) -- some of them seem almost baffled or even weirdly disappointed by any evidence they're offered that the West is actually winning that struggle.

Islam has features that make its adherents much more resistant than other immigrants to assimilation -- but Western culture is vastly richer, more creative, more variegated, and more attractive. We should never have doubted that its appeal will prevail in the end, with most Muslim immigrants, even if not with all.

17 November, 2009 08:47  
Blogger TomCat said...

Great post, Infidel. Now if only the American Taliban would renounce jihad.

17 November, 2009 10:40  
Blogger Infidel753 said...

Well, teabaggers would have a pretty tough time assimilating into mainstream American culture, but.....

17 November, 2009 10:47  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It was very interesting for me to read this post. Thanks for it. I like such topics and anything that is connected to them. I would like to read more soon.

18 November, 2009 14:01  

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