26 August 2009

Something that should be remembered

The theologian Tertullian said that one of the pleasures afforded to the saved in Heaven is being able to watch the torments of the damned in Hell.

I don't believe in such things, but if I did, I'd be imagining that, right about now, Mary Jo Kopechne is getting her popcorn ready.


Blogger Ranch Chimp said...

Well...if there was such a place...there is also an old saying that it is better to reign in Hell,than to serve in Heaven. My choice either way would have to be Hell.

26 August, 2009 06:27  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You can be wicked, Infidel! My my... ;)

26 August, 2009 10:03  
Blogger Infidel753 said...

I try.....:-)

26 August, 2009 11:33  
Blogger Infidel753 said...

It's been disappointing, to say the least, to see how many bloggers and other writers have tried to downplay Chappaquiddick in their assessments of Kennedy. It's a compromising of principles in order to whitewash a beloved personality -- in a word, hypocrisy, not unlike what the rightists do when they downplay their leaders' endless sex scandals.

Except that sex scandals are really rather trivial in most cases; no one would care about them much if those same Republican leaders hadn't based their ideological identity on preaching sexual purity at others.

Chappaquiddick was not some trivial sex scandal. A person died because of Kennedy's actions and inactions. Did he go on to do a lot of good later in his life? Of course. Can all of that outweigh what he did, and failed to do, at Chappaquiddick? Never.

Fortunately, Google search trends suggest that the public has a more balanced view of things (I ignore Rosin's snark about "tabloid selves").

27 August, 2009 07:48  
Blogger Daniel Wilcox said...

Tertullian's claim is the sort of reprehensible claim that led me finally to totally reject the Christian religion.

Here, again, strangely, we have ethics being decided by politics. I remember all the Christians condemning the Kennedy brothers and all Democrats,
defending Republican Christians who were also guilty of immoral actions, (though I don't know that any of them led to the death of a young woman).

22 November, 2017 15:57  
Blogger Infidel753 said...

I assume Tertullian was a sadist. It's hard to imagine anyone but a sadist being able to believe in Hell and a "just God" at the same time.

This post was perhaps more unseriously written than the topic deserves, but my point was that some actions really are bad enough to make a person irredeemable, and this is an example of one which qualifies.

I was not aware that you had "totally rejected the Christian religion". From your blog I had the impression that you still self-identified as Christian, which is why I described you as such here. If that's incorrect, I apologize.

22 November, 2017 20:05  

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