It really sucks for young women in red states who have no autonomy over their own bodies. They are being told they must bring the baby to full term no matter what happens to their own health by old men who can't even find the clitoris. It's The Handmaid's Tale in real life.
Leanna: It's becoming a nightmarish situation. But at least most people can see the horror of it when it takes the form of actual victims rather than abstract phrases.
Mary: In a way, I suppose, but actually there are almost as many pro-forced-birth women as men. What you're seen here is religious domination. If it weren't for the religious taboos, this would not even be an issue.
Infidel, Can you correct me if I'm wrong. Isn't banning interstate travel actually against the Constitution? Yeah, I know it is far from ideal to have to go interstate for an abortion but that's not really the issue. Isn't a travel ban on people who haven't committed a crime illegal. I mean I know the US has dry counties but that doesn't mean crossing the county line to get a drink is banned. I do know in certain parts of the USA GA pilots are ferrying women in their Cessnas pro-bono for abortions. Can that actually be made illegal? Both according to the Constitution and also practically? What if the pilot can plausibly deny the reason for the flight?
To call a law unconstitutional, one must find a provision in the Constitution which prohibits the government from making such a law. A state law restricting interstate travel would probably be covered by the so-called commerce clause, which says that only the federal government can regulate "interstate commerce". So far, "interstate commerce" has been interpreted very broadly, to include almost any activity that involves more than one state. So on that basis, it's almost certainly unconstitutional for a state to restrict people from traveling from one state to another.
Of course, what matters in practice is what the Supreme Court would rule if such a challenge to a law were brought before it. Nowadays, that's hard to predict.
It's just ridiculous. Women and girls are having to travel out of state in order to have the healthcare they need because of these ridiculous new laws.
Individualist, pro-technology, pro-democracy, anti-religion. I speak only for myself and not for any ideology, movement, or party. It has been my great good fortune to live my whole life free of "spirituality" of any kind. I believe that evidence and reason are the keys to understanding reality; that technology rather than ideology or politics has been the great liberator of humanity; and that in the long run, human intelligence is the most powerful force in the universe.
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It really sucks for young women in red states who have no autonomy over their own bodies. They are being told they must bring the baby to full term no matter what happens to their own health by old men who can't even find the clitoris. It's The Handmaid's Tale in real life.
Male dominance at its most putrid….Mary
Leanna: It's becoming a nightmarish situation. But at least most people can see the horror of it when it takes the form of actual victims rather than abstract phrases.
Mary: In a way, I suppose, but actually there are almost as many pro-forced-birth women as men. What you're seen here is religious domination. If it weren't for the religious taboos, this would not even be an issue.
Infidel,
Can you correct me if I'm wrong. Isn't banning interstate travel actually against the Constitution? Yeah, I know it is far from ideal to have to go interstate for an abortion but that's not really the issue. Isn't a travel ban on people who haven't committed a crime illegal. I mean I know the US has dry counties but that doesn't mean crossing the county line to get a drink is banned. I do know in certain parts of the USA GA pilots are ferrying women in their Cessnas pro-bono for abortions. Can that actually be made illegal? Both according to the Constitution and also practically? What if the pilot can plausibly deny the reason for the flight?
To call a law unconstitutional, one must find a provision in the Constitution which prohibits the government from making such a law. A state law restricting interstate travel would probably be covered by the so-called commerce clause, which says that only the federal government can regulate "interstate commerce". So far, "interstate commerce" has been interpreted very broadly, to include almost any activity that involves more than one state. So on that basis, it's almost certainly unconstitutional for a state to restrict people from traveling from one state to another.
Of course, what matters in practice is what the Supreme Court would rule if such a challenge to a law were brought before it. Nowadays, that's hard to predict.
It's just ridiculous. Women and girls are having to travel out of state in order to have the healthcare they need because of these ridiculous new laws.
It's horrifying -- and evil.
Only thing they missed was a fucking flag pin.
It would be fitting if they'd added one. Maybe a cross as well.
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