02 December 2009

The Afghanistan decision (2)

It's too soon to really tell, but a brief look around the blogosphere suggests that Obama won over at least a few waverers. Oliver Willis has the best assessment I've seen of the overall issue.


Blogger Ranch Chimp said...

Heh,heh,heh,heh,heh ...Boy oh boy, the shit really hit the fan this morning on this, heh?

The only reason I havent posted on this is simply because I already posted too much on this war to be frank ...I still stand with my same position, which would be unacceptable to the right and the left and the international community as well.I certainly wont hold President Obama in an ill fashion over this ...because he basically had no choice, and either way he went or any President ..it would not make many happy ...or can this war ever make an American happy.And the way we fight war's ...well ...heh,heh,heh,heh .. I think this is ...well ...the usual ...and more crap to distract any attention on our own issue's. I realize alot of people care about Afghanistan, and of coarse it concern's me as well,(but frankly could give a shit less if they all starved to death, I mean, I didnt cause their problem's or any other average American) but I also realize that our enemy has no territory, they had bin Laden once in their sight's and blew that off, and we constantly kiss up to the Arab's anywayz, which the majority of the 9/11 terrorist's were. Already folk's are talking about a draft in Washington as well as now a "war" tax ...which will be another fortune for all these ingrate's to feast on as well as contractor's...and all the Taliban has to do is lay low for a year or so, and the grunt's change side's so we pay them and feed them, then when we slack up they will turn again against us, this is so plain to see, any jackass even ought to see how were getting milked like cattle(whatever timeline we announce) ...and kick up the heat again or target other cities again in India, Pakistan, Iraq, or whatever ...they will probably leave Iran alone...since Iran is firmly our opponent. Our enemy has grown much wiser over the last several year's ...we are so slow to do anything or actually battle, and they take advantage of that.And the big prize is Pakistan also...with Allah's great "bomb"(nuke's) close to hand.

Thanx Guy .....

02 December, 2009 09:14  
Blogger (O)CT(O)PUS said...

Infidel753: "I'm going to give Obama the benefit of the doubt on this one."

I share this assessment but the decision leaves me uncomfortable, in part because I have reservations. Can the job be reasonably accomplished within the specified time frame? A tall order, knowing the volatility is the region.

All commentators have their list of unanswered questions. The VoteVet folks, for instance, ask whether our military will again become over-stretched with a return to stop-loss conditions and inadequate rest intervals.

My own unanswered question: Inasmuch as our presence in Muslim lands fuels local resentment, how will this be mitigated? The Iraq war, case in point, served as a recruitment poster for extremists. In Afghanistan, we are increasing the size of our footprint, but where is that elusive "winning over hearts and minds" in this equation? In Pakistan, Americans are more reviled than the Taliban and, given a choice between the two, the locals prefer the Taliban.

The list of unanswered questions that annoyed me: Questions about tactics (I would sure like to play poker with folks who reveal their hand), and John McCain (perpetual grumpy old man who never flushed his own toilet - true BTW).

02 December, 2009 11:04  
Blogger Leslie Parsley said...

Like you, I stand behind the president. And like many bloggers, it's with a deep sadness and many misgivings.

Went to Willis' blog. He used to be on my blog roll. He's smart and a good writer, unlike so much of the stuff on THP lately. Anyway, I appreciate the links as it's very insightful and certainly gives me a lot to chew on.

02 December, 2009 13:17  
Blogger Holte Ender said...

The Republicans loved it, therefore it must be wrong, they were supporting it widely, they want to see him fail, they are lapping it up.

02 December, 2009 14:27  
Blogger Ranch Chimp said...

Heh,heh,heh,heh,heh ...the comment by Mr.Holte Ender, really gave me a laugh! How true ...the republican's were lapping it up starving dog's! And you can bet it's not to display bipartisanship, it's out of desperation ... I mean ...their willing to even nominate someone like Palin to run the country in the 21st century(she has great personality,but UH-UH when it come's to being a President), that's about as dumb as nominating me to a Bishop over the Dallas Catholic Diosese!

03 December, 2009 01:41  
Blogger Infidel753 said...

It's a bad option, certainly. The question is whether there were any other options that wouldn't be worse. I don't think there were.

RC: their willing to even nominate someone like Palin to run the country in the 21st century

Hey, because of the peculiarities of the Republican primary system, it could happen. About the only well-qualified major candidate they've got who still seems interested is Romney, and the fundies won't rally around him because he's a Mormon.

the Dallas Catholic Diosese!

Is that a type of sexually-transmitted diosese? Don't worry, they'd never nominate you for that, you have to have molested a least a minimal number of altar boys to qualify.

03 December, 2009 03:58  
Blogger Karen said...

It's a lose-lose situation which, I'm sure, Prez O knew... but he consistently said during his campaign, that he would focus on Afghanistan.

I had mixed feelings about it then, and still do but I support my commander-in-chief.

03 December, 2009 11:04  

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