19 June 2023

Video of the day -- dream world


This looks awesome.  I still have no idea whether the movie itself will be any good, but it looks to be the most visually original and interesting one since Pleasantville.  It's an absolute revolution against the dull, dreary, murky imagery of most movies today.  And I love the thought of a world with no water.

An analytical take:

10 Comments:

Blogger Lady M said...

It is only that colorful when Barbie is in the Barbie World. Once she travels to the real world it gets murkier.

19 June, 2023 04:16  
Blogger Lady M said...

What about Asteroid City? That is getting good reviews and it looks bright.

19 June, 2023 04:17  
Blogger Infidel753 said...

The real-world scenes just look normal. I don't see anything in this one with the weird, murky, gloomy, under-lit color palette that's become so common in recent movies.

Haven't heard of Asteroid City. I'll look into it.

19 June, 2023 06:51  
Blogger Daal said...

funny - was never into barbies, & wouldn't have known about the movie if it wasn't for you mentioning it earlier. so many things, tho, have whole new level of being able to appreciate decades later. for instance, am lately watching 1960s Mission Impossible shows with great fascination...

19 June, 2023 17:35  
Blogger NickM said...

I'm really looking forward to it. And the Oppenheimer movie. Odd mix.

I have a feory. (He has a feory!) about the murk. Watch any of the Star Trek stuff. The bridge of the Enterprise (or Voyager or whatever) is always brightly lit. The Klingon, Romulan, whatever ships aren't. You can justify spending the cash on a set that gets used all the time for over a hundred episodes (TNG, Voyager - Never got into DS9) in a way you can't for something that is a full spread of photon torpedoes away from destruction seconds after Jean-Luc says, "Make it so!". It's just cost-cutting. How many TV channels do we have now? I recall it being a big deal when the UK got Channel 4. With God knows how many channels (and therefore reduced ad revenue) something has to give. We had TV shows in the UK that half the population watched. Stuff like "Coronation Street" got like 25 million viewers back in the day. It now gets 7 million on a good day and that is over a time period where the UK population has gone from about 50 million to about 70 million.

Oh, by the way... Are you aware the making of the Barbie movie caused a global shortage of pink paint!

Life in plastic - it's fantastic.

20 June, 2023 04:28  
Blogger Infidel753 said...

Daal: I was never into dolls in general as a kid, but the visual style of this movie just really caught my eye.

NickM: I gather you're saying that some sets are under-lit to disguise how cheaply made they are? That would work in the case of TV, where some sets are used much less than others, but in the case of movies -- which is where the "murk" issue of the last few years has been most noted -- all sets are presumably used for just that one movie, yet for years most movies didn't have such a dark and washed-out color palette. A lot of it is CGI rather than physical sets these days, anyway. (I've heard it suggested that they make everything so dark to disguise the fact that their CGI is crap.) And of course the budgets on these things are gargantuan, even allowing for inflation. It really seems to be an aesthetic fad that has settled over a lot of the industry.

I've heard the pink paint story -- I believe Brittney mentioned it in one of her videos. Not too surprising since there's probably not a huge amount of pink paint manufactured.

20 June, 2023 06:43  
Blogger NickM said...

I dunno. In recent years (due to Netflix etc.) TV and cinema have kinda become much the same thing. Certainly in terms of budgets (see Amazon Prime's total disaster area that was "The Rings of Power" - or rather don't see it). I watched it bacause I was flabbergasted that you could spend that much cash and get everything wrong. I mean everything.

You might have a point that it is an aesthetic but I do still suspect that that aesthetic is chosen partially to cover doing things on the cheap. And I think there is some truth in the poor CGI thing. Perhaps way too many execs think CGI is cheap. And it can be but good CGI isn't.

21 June, 2023 01:15  
Blogger NickM said...

You might find this interesting...

https://getpocket.com/explore/item/the-reinvention-of-black?utm_source=pocket-newtab-global-en-GB

21 June, 2023 01:43  
Blogger Infidel753 said...

Movie sets don't typically get re-used many times the way TV sets do, that's my point. Unless they get re-used for sequels, given today's addiction to franchises.

At a time when two hundred million is a typical budget for a major movie, there's no excuse for doing things on the cheap, especially when so often the special effects are the main focus and writing is an afterthought. In the US, however, I'm fairly sure that physical special-effects work is unionized, while CGI work is not. That probably helps keep CGI not only cheaper but more shoddy, since workers employed under worse conditions are presumably less motivated.

21 June, 2023 03:22  
Blogger NickM said...

A lot of the Hollywood CGI is probs out-sourced. I'm thinking Korea. I doubt it's motivation as much as a production-line approach.

But... You've really got me thinking about colour. I'm a RG colour blind web-designer so I think about colour a lot. I also have an assortment of screens* and cheaper flat panels don't do blacks quite as well as old school CRTs. There is also a heck of a difference between projection and TV/monitors. We've been discussing this from the viewpoint of aesthetics vs. economics. I suspect there are technical aspects. Movie/TV makers are gonna be watching their stuff on top-end kit. Is Joe Public? Is your local cinema using top-end stuff? Cinemas have undoubtedly taken a financial whack with the pandemic and the simple fact that folks like me have a 43" TV (and that was the smallest size in that model range) and broadband. Is it possible they haven't upgraded for new movies?

*When I first built a website it was for SVGA 1024x768 15-17" 4:3 CRT - which basically everyone had. Now I'm having to think laptops to monster screens and also phones and tablets. Yes, it is a pain in the arse.

21 June, 2023 04:58  

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