17 May 2024

Videos of the day -- sounds of an era

Does anyone else still listen to music like this -- in preference to most of what comes out nowadays?

It does seem like there was a bit more variety in popular music back then -- not every single song needs to be about naïve romantic passion or even-more-naïve political/"revolutionary" passion (yes, I do know what "Save It for Later" was actually about).  This is only the merest sliver -- I could easily have come up with sixty songs instead of just six.


Blogger NickM said...

OK, I'll see your Buggles and Raise you The Broad Band...


Now, look how dated that seems twenty odd years later...

17 May, 2024 02:44  
Blogger NickM said...

OK... I don't think there's less variety as such. It's just harder to find in the absolute torrent of stuff out there. There has been a fundamental change though. Songs have been getting longer because streaming doesn't require them to fit into slots the same way radio or MTV or whatever needed them to.

17 May, 2024 02:50  
Blogger Lady M said...

I always liked my music a bit more British and obscure than this - such a hipster before it was a thing. So for this era which was what early 1980's I was listening to the Boomtown Rats, Ultravox, REM, The Cure, The Jam, Squeeze, Joy Division, Magazine, the Buzzcocks, Wire, and many others mostly on cassette tapes.

17 May, 2024 04:16  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yes please, 54 more.

17 May, 2024 07:11  
Anonymous Annie said...

I'm not really equipped to opine on this topic as my musical choices fall mostly between classical and the Sinatra era, but I liked the Mary Chapin Carpenter piece a lot.

17 May, 2024 12:50  
Blogger nick said...

I agree with you that there was more variety in pop music when we were young. Today's pop music seems very mediocre and monotonous. Singers like Taylor Swift leave me cold. Is it just because I'm an out-of-touch old codger? I don't think so. I do love Mary Chapin Carpenter, I've got one of her "best-of" CDs.

17 May, 2024 13:25  
Blogger NickM said...

Listening to a "best-of" CD displays serious "codgeristic" tendencies... :-)

17 May, 2024 18:15  
Blogger Infidel753 said...

NickM: That's pretty well done. I wonder what will be the next thing to kill the previous thing.

As for the variety only being harder to find, that may well be the case, but I specified popular music. Today music is more dominated by corporate homogeneity and formulas. I know there are still innovators, but they have a harder time breaking through and achieving broad distribution and listenership.

Lady M: A lot of the British stuff was great. I'll probably have more of it in a future similar post, if there is one.

Anon: I'm thinking about it.

Annie: Chacun à son goût. Carpenter is great. I'm surprised she's not better known.

Nick: I agree about most of the modern stuff. I actually like some of Taylor Swift's music, but she's not a real innovator like the Kinks or the Beatles. It's still possible that there will be a genuine fresh, new wave to come -- probably from outside the English-speaking world.

I don't want to encourage Nick-on-Nick rhetorical violence here, but a "best-of" compilation from a good performer seems like a fine thing, and I doubt it's only "codgers" who think so.

17 May, 2024 20:20  
Blogger NickM said...

Sorry, I should have made that post longer. I wasn't having a go at nick. OK. Everyone talks about "decades" in popular music. The '50s, '60s 70s, 80 etc. I think this misses a big point. I have noticed amongst a lot of people that there is a period of roughly ten years that defines tastes pretty much for a lifetime and that isn't a calendrical decade as much as a period in their lives. It's basically what you listened to between the ages of roughly 15 and 25. Infidel, your selections are exactly "right" for someone in their early 60s which I think you are. It's perhaps not as accurate as tree rings or carbon-14 but it's not bad. As I got through my 40s I realised I'd fell into this rut and actively sought out new stuff because I didn't want to end up like my Dad who basically doesn't believe anything good happened in pop after The Beatles split. That and it spooked me that Radio 2 was playing Suede and Pulp and stuff from my early 20s as "oldies". What really got me was listening to a St Etienne song last year and realizing that 1993 was exactly as far away from now as it was from the release of the Beatles first LP. That was scary.

I should have included this but I didn't have time. Sorry. I hope this clarifies things.

18 May, 2024 01:51  
Blogger NickM said...

PS. "I doubt it's only "codgers" who think so." True. It also appeals to Biddies ;-)

OK, /sarc. I couldn't help myself. I'n just hiding my own horror at ageing.

18 May, 2024 01:57  
Blogger nick said...

I sample lots of up-and-coming singers, hoping for something dazzling, but most of them leave me cold. They just aren't as inventive musically as say, Annie Lennox or Bonnie Raitt or Laura Mvula or Blondie. I don't think it's because I'm an unadventurous old codger. There are plenty of contemporary novels, films and art works that I like. It's only today's music that does nothing for me.

18 May, 2024 04:21  
Blogger SickoRicko said...

Not now, not then.

18 May, 2024 16:40  
Blogger Infidel753 said...

NickM: I've heard that idea (about imprinting on the music you hear between 15 and 25), and you're right about my age (63). There may well be something to it, but I'm not sure it's the whole explanation. Other videos I considered for inclusion here were more recent, though still not contemporary. My mother favored groups like the Beatles, the Kinks, and the Rolling Stones, but also some recent ones like Celtic Thunder and Show of Hands, and she was born in 1932. But she had a deep knowledge of music most people don't have.

Nick: Interesting that taste in things like novels and movies doesn't follow the same pattern -- well, movies at least haven't been around very long and change very fast. Myself, I largely favor novels of the mid-nineteenth to mid-twentieth century, so in that area I've got you out-codgered.

Ricko: Whatevs.

19 May, 2024 05:43  
Blogger NickM said...

Well, obviously it is not the only thing going on but it is a factor. And maybe I'm noticing because I'm 50 and fashion (in lots of things) seems to run on something like a 25-30 year cycle. I've been told copies of things like Vogue of that age are valuable for that reason. Fashion designers use them for inspiration. Interestingly I think the mean age of giving birth to a first child in the UK is about 27.

It's a pet theory of mine that fashion (in the broadest sense) is the most unacknowledged actor in history.

Books, movies and TV... Well, how long between Disney makes of for say "The Lion King"... I know, it's not flogging a dead lion but, "re-imagining for a new generation..."

Books I suppose are different because they can't be adapted and still have a hold on us culturally that very little else does. Consider the holy books of various religions.

19 May, 2024 06:54  

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