20 October 2015

Debate results

After a flurry of interest in quick but unscientific website surveys immediately after the Democratic debate, we now have three properly-conducted polls of Democrats to show us what the party actually thinks.  Jobsanger assembles and explains the results here, and produced the graphic above (it's of just one of the three polls, but all three gave very similar results).  Confirming the almost unanimous view of political analysts after the debate, Clinton won handily.

She also remains the frontrunner nationally by a large margin.  Notice, too, that the picture looks broadly the same whether or not Biden is included (though I concede that his impact might be greater if he actually joined the race, especially if the rumored possibility of Warren as his running mate materializes).  It's important to remember that the liberal blogosphere in many ways is not representative of the broad mass of Democratic voters, who are less ideological, more interested in practical results, and probably more focused on the all-important question of which candidate can really beat the Republicans than on which one is most pure of "incorrect" positions.

As most readers know, I'm supporting Clinton, but the crucial thing is for the party to remain unified regardless of who ultimately becomes its candidate.  If Sanders gets the nomination I'll support him and do my damnedest to get him elected -- and the same goes for Biden if he gets in and wins.  That the next President must be a Democrat is far more important than which Democrat it is.  Sanders fully understands this and, to his great credit, has promised not to run as a third candidate if he doesn't win the nomination (and any Democrat who does threaten to do this should be treated as a pariah).  Leave the ideological purism and circular firing squads to the Republicans.  Our side needs to stay united.

By the way, for those who aren't familiar with it, Jobsanger is a very good blog for keeping up with polls, showing the results in easily-understood format, and explaining their significance.  I strongly disagree with some of the views about Israel which have been expressed there in the past, but for US domestic politics, it's well worth following.

Update:  Just saw this and couldn't resist adding it -- Bernie pwns Martin Shkreli, who goes into meltdown mode.


Blogger Pinku-Sensei said...

Good riddance to Jim Webb, as he was out of step with the rest of the Democratic field on climate and energy as well as his favorite enemy. On both counts, his answer fit better with what I'd imagine a reasonable Republican would say, not a Democrat. Maybe he'd be better off as a Modern Whig or Reform Party candidate.

20 October, 2015 14:40  
Blogger Infidel753 said...

Webb is hardly a true Democrat, or he wouldn't be threatening to run independently and sabotage our nominee. Luckily, his support is so minimal I doubt he'll have much impact.

21 October, 2015 03:07  
Blogger Les Carpenter said...

Perhaps. But Trump, assuming he gets the GOP nomination which is far from certain could be a big boost for HRC's campaign.

21 October, 2015 14:40  
Blogger Infidel753 said...

Rational: I certainly hope so. It would be a classic case of the Republican party being destroyed by a monster it created but could no longer control (the monster being the Morlock base that supports Trump, rather than Trump himself).

21 October, 2015 16:50  
Blogger Les Carpenter said...


21 October, 2015 17:34  

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